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Enemy Commanders: Britain's Greatest FoesEnemy Commanders: Britain's Greatest Foes

20 comments

Dinah
15 February 2012, 4.45pm

Respected by all

Respected by all

Michael Crumplin
1 March 2012, 4.27pm

No contest!

No contest!

Hammerton
1 March 2012, 4.37pm

He was morally contemptible,

He was morally contemptible, personally odious but possibly the greatest strategist in history. (Cf., Wellington's comments.)

max
1 March 2012, 7.48pm

His victory would have

His victory would have created the EU 150 years earlier, and oppression.
I suspect, however, Wellington would have hand of a rearguard action in India.

John Newby
1 March 2012, 7.57pm

Thank God for Nelson &

Thank God for Nelson & Wellington!!

Peter Stephenson
1 March 2012, 8.43pm

The danger to England, as

The danger to England, as with Europe as a whole, was not his military prowess or his resources (both of which were intitially vast) but the social and intellectual wave that, if he did not create it, he partly controlled and rode as it swept across Europe. He was a man of exceptional talents, courage and ambition who ultimately found himself in the right place at the right time. He perceived his position and his opportunities with sufficient clarity to know how to use them and was blinded enough by arrogance to dare to do so. He did not have to beat England to conquer it - simply not losing would eventually have been enough. That was the level of danger he posed and why he was far more dangerous that all the other enemies except, perhaps, Hitler. Unlike Hitler however Napoleon represented a viable long-term alternative culture to English culture that persists to this day.

Oliver Schmidt
2 March 2012, 7.25am

Napoleon probably created the

Napoleon probably created the greatest and longest lasting threat of invasion and downfall of the British isles and their rulers.

Gary Wright
2 March 2012, 3.32pm

I don't know why Napoleon is

I don't know why Napoleon is even in this list. An Anglo-European force fought him in one battle and for much of that he was on his sick bed. A great commander yes, but not really a first hand great foe to Britain on the battlefield.

George Barry
11 March 2012, 1.41am

A brilliant commander who

A brilliant commander who mastered the 'chess board' of warfare and someone who presented a clear and present danger to Britain's national interest! And, a far more influential military figure than Michael Collins - who is leading the poll at time of writing. Let's organise our own campaign to put 'Boney' where he belongs - back on top!!

Dennis Neale
12 March 2012, 12.10pm

Certainly the most dangerous

Certainly the most dangerous and skilled opponent. As has already been said "no contest".

George Barry
12 March 2012, 7.16pm

All of the above comments

All of the above comments praising Napoleon are all very fine but it is clear that your sentiments are not translating into votes!!! Is anybody capable of organising an online offensive in support of Britain's greatest and most dangerous foe?

Bruno Cattivabrutto
16 March 2012, 5.50pm

Can't Napoleon be Britain's

Can't Napoleon be Britain's greatest foe without needing to be defended? Aren't other nations entitled to their own national interests? Surely a poll in India or Ireland might name Britain their greatest foe.

Marshal Berthier
16 March 2012, 9.42pm

No contest the greatest

No contest the greatest general who has ever lived.

His face on the battlefield is worth 20000 men. ( duke of wellington )

Andreas Heinzl
17 March 2012, 10.50pm

Did Napoleon actually manage

Did Napoleon actually manage to win a major battle or conflict against the british? I don't think so. He shouldn't really be the greatest foe since he never won... Egypt, Trafalgar, Portugal, Waterloo to name a few defeats when facing the british.

sibaz
20 March 2012, 6.20pm

None of the other Commanders

None of the other Commanders come close. Napoleon took on every European (continental) army (basically the whole civilised world at the time), and beat almost all of them. Had he been as capable a Seafarer as he was a general, we'd probably be speaking French, and had he seen the threat of Wellington and taken charge of the invasion of Portugal himself, instead of handing the kingdom of Spain to his brother, he'd probably have killed Wellington, following Britain's initial and under-prepared attempt to support Portugal before the the dramatic Dunkirk style retreat and withdrawal at the start of the Peninsula conflict. The time given to the British stragglers and the lack of urgency Napoleons Brother showed, allowed Wellington time to turn Lisbon into an impregnable fortress. His ego was his ultimate downfall, but non-the-less he was a genius.

Brigadier28SC
27 March 2012, 2.39pm

Britain led seven coalitions

Britain led seven coalitions in an attempt to defeat and dethrone Napoleon. He was a very dangerous threat to the Brutish monarchy and indeed all the other European monarchies. All of the various coalition partners recognized Napoleon as a skillful and dangerous foe. This poll is a no-brainier - Napoleon wins.

Jim McLachlan
29 March 2012, 3.37pm

I cannot understand why

I cannot understand why Bonaparte has not, so far, achieved the vast majority of votes. He was by far and away the biggest single threat to the security of this country in a conflict lasting more than 20 years, than anyone else in history. Forget Hitler - he was not a military commander as such.

Art
30 March 2012, 9.55pm

Someone earlier made a good

Someone earlier made a good point. Napoleon as a commander only faced the Brits twice--once when he drove Moore out of Spain and later at Waterloo (against an army mostly comprised of Germans and Dutch), and during the former he left the pursuit to his subordinates, leaving the army to return to Paris to deal with the Austrians, who were a far bigger threat.

Niggzs
1 April 2012, 3.01pm

He was by far the greatest

He was by far the greatest threat over England (except maybe Hitler who was not a military commander). Like previously said, His ego was his ultimate downfall. He never let his best generals fight really independantly like Davout, Lannes, Suchet, Massena, Soult, Eugene, moved away Moreau or Jourdan and or use them as the wrong place like Ney (1813 - 1815), Awesome fighter but not as general, Grouchy as well or Soult (1815) and some of them were not enough good at the end.

In never really fight in Spain, that was a great failure because he had time between 1809 and 1812. Obviously he invades Russia his greatest mistake ever, he succeced first in the campaign but then in 1812 with the possibility of the period, it was to difficult to definitely win against this country like that.

He was largely better than Wellington, and against him, with all his capacity (not sick like in the Moskova or Waterloo), he will at 90% win any battle. Wellington was not ready to really risk his army, and attack like Napoleon and he played all the time (except in vitoria probably) in defense. You can be really good as general like that but not good enought to be compare with Turenne, Malborought, Napoleon for instance, or like the old Molke, Guderian, Manstein, Rommel, Patton. Wellington was more like Mongomery if you want to compare.

England was saved by Nelson who' was a really great Amiral. France with a great fleet and above all great commanders could surely win this war at the end.

Chris Jones
16 April 2012, 12.28am

Just to answer those who

Just to answer those who question when Napoleon ever defeated the British? You could start with the siege of Toulon when he evicted the English from their forts and forced the hasty evacuation of the Royal Navy from the port there (a series of engagements in which the young Bonaparte received an English Sergeant's pike thrust in his thigh). Moving on you could read about which whirlwind descent on and pursuit of Sir John Moore's army from Spain (the English couldn't get to their boats fast enough). Then there's the frustrating months an English army spent cooped-up on Walcheren, before it returned him malaria ridden. And finally you an include the Waterloo campaign when the left wing of his army, under Ney, forced Wellington to retreat at Quatre Bras.

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